What we are trying to determine is the best and legally acceptable way for my daughter’s upcoming travel to Italy. And that is the tricky part, my passport does not allow me to enter the Schengen area without a visa, not even as a tourist, and during the holidays I want to travel to my home country in South America, and I don’t think I can exit and enter the Schengen area with just my receipt. Hi Sam! https://www.portaleimmigrazione.it/. Even for the permesso, you will need a fixed address. How big is my chance here? When I arrived, I waited 2 hours, and then was told there was some problem and I had to come back the next day instead. As an EU citizen I know I do not need any visa for Italy state so no visa to convert so is it the us EU folks do not need the PdS? It’s not even the first time I’ve had to do this (semi-regular sabbaticals) but it is still a huge mental burden. It’s normal practice among the Chinese that with young daughter mum goes too to ensure daughter is ok. I’m presently sorting out a Schengen visa for my wife, that she’s allowed being married to me, I plan to resume my teaching work on-line from where we will live so of course need sort out Codice Fiscale. And I hadn’t done it in Rome before. It is the visa terms that are converted into the permesso. So a neighborhood with a metro line- or do you want to be near a train station? Ovviamente mai visto suo certificato di nascita e festeggiando il suocompleanno senza sapere in data dell adozione, voluta dai genitori adottivi. You can find machines that take photos like these for about €5 all over Rome, and especially at metro stations. A permesso can be granted only when a visa is 90 days or more. Also, does anyone know about getting a passport stamped in San Marino (non-Schengen) and using that method as a way to stay in Italy for longer than the 90 days? I first thought it is blog and accidendtly found during surfing but now reading all the pages from your site. Should I start with a student one and take an Italian language course on arrival while looking for a job? My daughter and I are beyond frustrated with not being able to get a straight answer on the following anywhere, including from the Italian Consulate and the US Department of State. Do you think I need to apply for the permesso di soggiorno to be able to leave the country? I do have a quick question though, my partner and I obtained Italian working holiday Visas prior to leaving our country however completely missed the part about having to apply for the residency permit within 8 days, so we are now well over that time limit. Hi Natalie. Not sure I understand… you do have a visa? I would recommend considering public transportation options and connectivity when you think about neighborhoods unless you are going to get a car! Learn how your comment data is processed. Ruthy! I did not know this when I applied for the visa, and I was intending to travel around without a fixed address. Also, can we apply for jobs without the residency permit? I can enter the country for less than 3 months even thought without a visa. Happy planning! 12. Stay on in Italy After the student visa expiration date for an additional 90 days of July-Sept For student visas, you can work 20 hours/week and you can look for that work once you get here. Is there anyway we can still get the visa. Kim. My wife, American born citizen with Italian mother, has her Italian dual citizenship and passport. Can you tell me if is the problem, can i delay the date for received permesso? The permission we seek is that of living legally in Italy. Get out a dictionary, open the kit, and start filling out forms. I know Bologna and Rome will be different in terms of cost of living, but if you have any advice on making that $6k stretch, I would appreciate it! Thank you for this incredible work you’e done answering so many questions! Wonderful!! To be honest, I am not sure. I know the permit is necessary for stays over 3 months, so it doesn’t seem to apply, but my visa says I will be staying longer. I’m an American, and will not be working at this point. Go to the Post Office (ugh). Hi Beatrice! CREATIVITY Presented by PERSON for COMPANY IL PERMESSO di soggiorno IL PERMESSO di soggiorno che cos'é IL PERMESSO di soggiorno ? Which visa should I be applying for from the consulate here? Or is it usually the case that the permesso won’t be granted until after the semester has started? Here is how you can get your very own Permesso di Soggiorno (Italian permit for stays longer than 3 months): Within 8 days of moving to Italy, you have to apply for your permesso. Can you apply for a “Permesso Di Soggiorno” if you are on a “Tourist Visa”? 3 – within 20 days of receipt of PdS, go to Anagrafe Do you have to pay tax when you are a resident? This may result in Visa not getting back in time for her initial travel I am in the process of getting my dual citizenship through marriage, but doubt that it will be completed by October when we plan on going back to Italy for the winter. Natalie is a food and travel writer who has been living in Rome full time since 2010. I just applied for an elective residency visa and expect it to be approved. I wouldn’t worry! I would like to make a few weekend trips outside of Italy if possible; however, it seems that it takes forever to receive it. So by the time you have the permit, you have been in Italy for about 3 months (or more). I’m very curious about your journey from the US to Italy and hope you’re keeping a blog! Because I’ll love to stay there with her without having to leave her and be able to eventually get permanent residency through being married to her. Please. but still we havent received it and are planning to go for family reunification.Is it possible.plz reply. Thanks, Any advice would be sincerely appreciated. For work permit how long may i wait ? Required fields are marked *. 1) Is it necessary to receive the permesso before actually physically attending university in Italy? 18. Questa è una versione del sito destinata in generale a chi parla Italiano in Italia. Garbatella is on Metro Line B – a few stops on from Colosseo. Anyways, make sure you take the right kind of number. The waiting time for the appointment at the questura (immigration office) has gotten a lot better. Hope it all went well! Sorry Natalie, another thought. Thanks for all the info- super helpful! You will do that when you go back to the post office. If you want to work in Italy, the best way is to have an employer sponsor you. I was told that it was not necessary even after repeated request. At last a step by step guide. Thanks again. Oh, and I do have one quick question. Hi Loulou – you don’t enter the country as a tourist. I think back then it was 800 euro/month. There should be an option for this when you apply at the post office (and it is a lower price than the year). Hi Emily – so glad you found the blog useful. After providing all asked for documentation, we were each given 10 year residency permits. Thank you for taking the time to map this out. Please,I would like to know what to do if I miss my appointment date and time due to unforeseen circumstances? Rilascio, Rinnovo, Conversione, Duplicato, Aggiornamento del Permesso di soggiorno Richiesta Permesso di soggiorno CE lungo periodo Illimitata ( Carta di soggiorno CE) Richiesta Test d’italiano Cittadinanza Italiana. I understand that one needs a non-tourist visa first before applying for a permesso. Hi, do you still need one of these if you work for the UN in Rome, Italy? I get Social Security and withdraw from my IRA; no pension or other source of income. Se risiedi in un altro paese o in un'altra area geografica, seleziona la versione appropriata di Tripadvisor dal menu a discesa. DO NOT sign the form. It is more difficult to change the application appointment, but you can collect it almost any time after it is ready. Thanks for your help! Dati passaporti diversi da quelli del permesso di soggiorno: Dichiarazione consolare. Thanks for the info! Hi Gia, I think you might need the actual permesso but it may also depend on the employer. We don’t want to work, just stay in Italy for 6 months traveling. I mean, i have a place to stay, but i dont have a contract with the landlord. I want to retire to Italy. The PLIDA certificate for level A2 or above is valid for the issue of a long term residence permit (permesso di soggiorno). It should take around 45 days. Are we still able to apply for this? Bring a letter from your university with the dates of your enrollment. I’m retired military and usually fly in and out of Germany. This is my first time applying, but over here in Florence it is WAY slower. Travel back to Italy Jan-June under her Student Visa Hi Lauren, Did you find out any further info on this? Hi Natalie, Haha. Thanks Natalie for quick reply. 3. I still always go at the appointed time, just in case. Anyway thanks for all the articles. I have received a sms for the date to pick up the permessio. I applied for the pds and went to the questura for my appointment, to find out that they didnt have my kit. Now I am in the process of reapplying for the visa here in the US and your blog was super helpful in reminding me of the Permesso process once I get there….Im near Perugia but same stuff applies. Truthfully, Rome’s subway system is no more expansive that Atlanta’s. CORREZIONE DEL PERMESSO DI SOGGIORNO O DELLA CARTA DI SOGGIORNO. I am sure you will love where you end up! Pay attention to the giant screens that show which number the officials are currently serving. 5. Thanks in advance!! We do not work here in Italy and live solely on our social security. I am in the same predicament, here on a working holiday visa so my intention is to travel around for the first 3 months and means I don’t have a fixed address. Pingback: 7 Things You Can Do at an Italian Tabacchi – An American in Rome. Just keep in mind that you should keep the proof of application with you if you are traveling in and out of Italy. After receiving my PdS, I will apply for citizenship via jure sanguinis. La procedura per la richiesta della correzione può essere solo quella della domanda di aggiornamento o ci sono altre possibilità? I’m 100% ITALIAN and I never find out how simple is to get a resident permit , ( permesso di soggiorno ) I move in usa ?? Hi Emaan! How did it go once leaving the country? Would you know of the implications or problems that I will encounter when I request a residency permit without a Visa. Don’t worry. I’d like to get a permesso, but does that mean I’d have to go back to the U.S. to get a long stay visa before applying for the permesso (or to the Italian Embassy in Germany)? kit postale – Per poter richiedere il rilascio oppure il rinnovo del permesso di soggiorno, a partire dall’11 dicembre 2006, in Italia viene usato un nuovo metodo.Le domande devono essere presentate agli Uffici delle Poste Italiane che si occupano del servizio di Sportello Amico.. Here is how you can get your very own Permesso di Soggiorno (Italian permit for stays longer than 3 months): Within 8 days of moving to Italy, you have to apply for your permesso. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. I didn’t have to include any residency info when applying for my actual visa. Signing this requires you to attend a few Italian civics and life classes, which I assume is simply a matter of showing up and staying to the end of the class (no tests required as far as I know). You should be able to use the receipt from the post office to apply for work. 1. A traveling companion and I are planning to go to Italy for a 6 week art course in Florence. 3) On the matter of finances – I have heard that in order to receive a visa/renew one’s permesso, one must have proof of sufficient personal funds, totaling somewhere around $6,600 USD as of August 2016. At the post office, take a number. Hello! The officers will call your time and have you line up, but they will likely be running behind schedule. thanks in advance. Thank you. When you get the questura, be prepared to wait and throw some elbows in line. The bus will say Immigration Office and be full of non-Italians. I am thinking cover for self, wife (daughter I need understand that situ re her Art University in Rome), what would be good ideas? Should I start worrying? You can travel with the receipt as proof! Excelsior! as I also 3-year valid multiple entries visa but 90 days . Since he’s EU, my understanding is that I don’t need a specific visa prior to entering Italy (per the SF embassy). What I do know is that the visa/permesso is meant to extend the 90 days of visa-free stay. More information is available on the Portale Immigrazione in Italian. Return to USA in Sept (will this cause problems given her visa and I assume her PdS, I will enter, as always, with my American passport that will be stamped in my entrance to Italy. Thanks again! I’m a U.S. Citizen with a temporary German residency that expires this year. Hi Natalie, The time to be ” legal ” in this country is absolutely too much . 7. It is also your proof that you have applied, and you should technically carry it with you if you travel outside of Italy before you get your handy PdS card. I appreciate your thoughts, and I’m sorry if the question has already been addressed in this very popular thread. So if you are in Italy for 80 days, and leave for 10, you still have 10 to spend over the next 6 months. (I’m sure I read this somewhere). Possono due sedicenni alloggiare da sole in una casa al mare, Leggi tutte le discussioni su Discussione generale. Hi Sandra! Leaving Italy does not reset your time, but what it does do is give you those extra days. I’ll be in Milan so I hope things aren’t too different – I’ve heard mixed things about whether you go first to the post office or first to the Questura. If you have citizenship, you do not need a visa. We don’t intend to work, we just want to travel throughout Italy, paint and research art history. Also thank you so much for the directions on how to get there- I looked it up on maps and was like how the heck am I going to get there?! And I agree it is frustrating to always bring the same paperwork- but such is bureaucracy! Hi John! We are planning to travel in Italy before the course begins and stay after the course ends for a total of 120 days. Well done!! Oh I should add here in China at the Embassy/Consulate seems they can process Codice Fiscale, I got email back with the requisite form, in Word thus translatable these days. Thanks! Thank you. Hi Chris! I just found your questions and was really hoping you could help me out…I have a working holiday visa valid for 12 months but plans have changed and am leaving in less than 90 days and not returning. Hello Natalie, I have never been corrected at the questura (immigration office). Couldn’t do it. Thank you so much for the info. No one told me I need to bring copies of other things with me. The appointment will likely be more than 3 weeks in the future. Your post is so helpful which I was looking for a month ago. I’m not sure I will stay in Italy more than 90’s days though – do I need to get the PdS? modulo da compilare (FAX-SIMILE) … Hi Stacey – when I applied for my first student visa, I was asked to show that I had enough money in the bank to support myself for the duration of my stay. They will also ask you where you want to pick the permesso up, so be prepared to name a police station near your house. We thought that we’d learn as much as we could about the Italian bureaucracy(we lived in London for a while) so that when we do move the transition would be kinda smooth. I’ll be establishing residence in Milan proper….. Thank you for posting about this. Il tutto deve essere consegnato allo “Sportello Amico” degli uffici postali per la spedizione alla Questuracompetente, che rilascerà una ricevuta di avvenut… That makes things much more clear for me. I think they question you are asking is probably more about visas than about permessi di soggiorno. As for now i am traveling back and forth so i dont over stay my visa. You have already answered many questions but I’m afraid that I still have quite a list of them. Thank you for your wiliness to share this information. Natalie, Prezi. Congrats! That is fine – they will keep it for you at the station near your home. I will continue to research and hopefully find an answer! Hi Natalie, Office open limited hours so anyone in China – check esp China National holiday times and CNY not that far away, only a few months, Hi Natalie, I recall reading about something to do with ‘elective residency’ what is that? Morning appointments tend to be more on time, but by afternoon they are always running behind schedule. i am also in same situation and second time i applied for permesso di socciorno..and i want to take a flight from sofia to Istanbul. How to Get a Permesso di Soggiorno in Italy. You must now sign an Accordo di Immigrazione form at the Questura. Do you have only a residency certificate? Travel to Italy in Sept, stay Sept-Dec (90 days only) with no visa Thanks for your help! Or did you receive a 10 year carta di soggiorno? Natalie many thanks. We will also travel to other countries during this time. The paperwork in Italy is never done. We use a re-entry Visa can we come to your I have a question that seems thorougly covered, but not clear. ?are there different times of residences(residenza ellettiva)? It is really useful for me. Firstly, awesome overview! Monteverde has the added benefit of being on the Tramline which is one of the most reliable forms of public transport in the city! I’m in US holder and I’m in Italy and I’m applying for permesso but I no one want hire me or give me contract before I get my permesso, also is it easy for Americans to get the permesso in italy. Revel in glory for a few months until it expires, and then start the process once more. Offriamo informazioni sul permesso di soggiorno, cittadinanza, lavoro, studio e sull'immigrazione in generale. Get your appointment! Once you arrive at the Poste Italiane take a ticket from one of the machines in the lobby-area. Thanks! Will the permesso di soggiorno be the best option? Hi Natalie, So, should we first get her a multiple entry visa or the apply for the permesso at Italy embassy in China? 3) Do you have any suggestions or recommendations for private health insurance? I owe party for these articles. Worst case scenario, they also have these photo machines at the main Rome quester. Sorry! We are planning to get married a couple months in on her 3 month tourist visa here, if/when we get married, what type of visa do I need for Italy’s permit to stay, and will I need to do the same thing listed in your steps? Hi Natalie, I came to Italy one month back and going through all the nightmare. You literally just need to pick it up and leave so the people behind you in line should not be too mad. Are you sure about you response? I want i am Partner in the company in Itlay can I apply for Permesso di Soggiorno in Italy. Hi Natalie! As EU, you only need to declare residency at the anagrafa. Mio compagno all ingresso via mare alla richiesta del asilo e permesso di soggiorno, ha fornito una data di nascita sbagliata (motivo deceso improvviso dei genitori, che precedentemente l'hanno adottato e partenza improvvisa dal paese, praticamente scappato dopo il deceso violento dei genitori). Your quip about reveling in the glory for a few months till you have to start again made me smile. Candidates eligible. At what point in the visa/schengen/permessio process can I apply for national healthcare? Can I travel in and out of Italy while the application is being processed ?? I am in a tricky situation, I go back to Milan for university on September (as soon as I get there I’ll begin the process of renewing it), and my PdS expires in October, but I want to go back home for a couple of weeks in December/January for the holidays, and if my PdS takes as long as the last time (6 months), I will have nothing but the receipt as a travel document, besides my passport. I am just confused because he doesn’t have a visa to switch from …, Hi Manu – if you have residency, your husband should be entitled to a carta di soggiorno (motivi familiare), Thanks for your post I have a study visa valid for one year as I take my master in Rome however my course is 10 days every 2 months I have took to classy as now I just stay 15 days every time I enter Italy after the 15 days I leave to my home country now I have six months left on my visa my next course start on October also for 15 days but this time I wanted to stay for more than 90 days it’s ok for me to apply for stay pirmet in Italy. Best regards! Hi Natalie ! I’m retired with an Elective VisaI and currently am waiting for approval of my PdS. When you exit the station, turn right and look for the bus stop for bus 437. Once you are married, the UN can support your visa , Hi Natalie Al fine di ottenere un permesso di soggiorno pensionata sufficiente aiuto dalla sicurezza sociale. Assistenza personalizzata sui problemi di permesso di soggiorno e non solo: Mentre la crisi economica in Italia non risparmia nessuno, per gli immigrati il problema dei documenti di soggiorno sta aggravando la loro crisi economica. This is a stamp with a monetary value that they will affix to one of the forms at the post office. I owe you big!!! The interview should be pretty short. And taxes. Hi there, I am a student in Italy, applied the permesso in June and had my fingerprinted in early July. We don’t plan on staying in one place for long enough to do the application, have an iterview and so on. Is there any chance you can apply to language schools to teach at before you arrive? A list of these is available on the Poste Italia website. Salve, avrei una domanda. If you are in Rome, you can get the Rome questura by taking Metro B to Rebibbia. Wishing you the best of luck in Italy! Just wanted to confirm I don’t need fotocopie of the modulo 1 that I And you should be set from there. I’m wondering what you meant at the end of your post by “start the process over again” after a few months. Hi Josh! I’m still waiting for my first PDS to be issued, and I want to travel to Spain. Its been more than a month I have applied in Questura. Natalie is a travel and food writer who has been living in Rome, Italy since 2010. Obviously it would help with the paperwork to have a job in the city, but tell me– Is it possible to move to Rome without marrying an Italian or having employment already lined up? That’s all (I’m sorry, I know it’s a lot) for now. However the other requirement is that you prove you posses an A2 level knowledge of the Italian language. Other sites say that once I have a PdS I can use the Italian national health system.While these statements are not contradictory I would guess that the latter is too good to be true, is it? just for transportation from sofia to Istanbul. If you are non-EU, you have to get a visa that allows work, or no employers can hire you legally. It has been issued? This time you really do have to wait in line. I have been looking at doing this recently and dreading it and here is your generous and easy to follow guidelines. Hi natalie, Or this 90 days has a;ready expired once I stepped in the Schengen Area, which is almost 1 year before…. Yes, all of it. Thoughts? 4. I can’t believe the point between the post office step and the meeting at the questura is so fast in Rome! Your permesso is tied to your type of visa. It shouldn’t be, but I’m not sure! You have to go to a Post Office with a special window called a Sportello Amico. This is exceptional information. Since I need to establish residency in Rome and plan to stay for more than 90 days I requested a Visa which they refused. Although Rome is trying to improve and expand its subway system, it’s basically a I don’t believe residency is usually granted without the legal right to live in Italy. If that is the case, should I work on obtaining a longer-term visa before I go? Hi Phil – my apologies but I don’t know the steps for the JS. I assume that someone must certify that I an at an A2 level, but who does this? Hi Austin – not at all! Thank you for the article! Congrats! Filled out and sent through the post office? There are chairs to sit in but wrap up if you are going in winter and bring water/a snack in case you are stuck outside for awhile. I just arrived in Italy and with the easter holiday I may miss the 8 day cut off by one day. I couldnt tell from the tone of your writing if you were just exaggerating a little, or if I’ve been misinformed and it really does only last like.. 6 months ish. Sa qualcuno dire cosa comporta portare in questura un passaporto con la data di nascita diversa(anno giusto) per il rinnovo del permesso di soggiorno. I want to make sure I have this correct. Also well connected by road/buses (by the Cristoforo Colombo). Also why am I nervous?! I was wondering if you ever found out if it is possible to apply for renewal earlier than 60 days prior to expiry. (I apologize for my delayed response– I only now saw that you had responded forever ago!). Hello Kenneth, I want to make sure I have this correct. If so, did it have to meet or exceed a specific amount? Thanks for this information. Again Thanks a bunch !! Yes – you certainly need a visa. ), but I’m just trying to gauge the minimum required for a big move from the states. Our Italian consulate in Miami tells us that since we already have residency, we do not need it. I am not sure on this one, but all anagrafe have an information desk so you might want to go directly. 47K likes. That is a GREAT question and I do not know. My husband came to Ialy from the USA with only our passports. I was wondering if you would have any insight on this issue – I have a 12 month working holiday visa issued to me.
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